Agree with @Cruellacodes
@avipat_'s case is very special, both parties agree that the split is good for both parties.
For most teams, you are stronger together, but happy to talk to anyone about this.
Been getting asked about migrating $WOM away from @believeapp lately, especially after seeing other founders make the jump 🤔
Honestly? I get the frustration with Ben, but I'm not convinced the grass is greener elsewhere.
I'll be real - my relationship with Ben started rocky as hell. Took days to get his attention, felt completely ignored at the start despite WOM doing numbers. I was frustrated as anyone.
But here's what changed my perspective: watching founders leaving Believe because they wanted more support, then going solo or jumping to other ecosystems where they'll get... even less support? That math doesn't add up to me. Surely its good for the short term PA but down the road? I'm not so sure.
Take Bonk for example. Everyone's hyped about it, and yeah it's fun, price goes up and all, but I have friends who launched utility projects there. None one of them got the support they hoped they would. One of them has one of the most interesting utilities on Bonk and they still can't get through to Tom or BonkGuy, despite having mutual connections and trying HARD.
Meanwhile, after that rocky start, I'm now in regular contact with Ben. His lack of communication early on definitely hurt Believe more than anything - which is crazy considering they had way bigger problems like snipers and hacked launches. But he's turned that around completely.
@pasternak has definitely done plenty wrong, no argument there. But at least he's taking real risks and genuinely thinking long-term about the ecosystem.
If he just wanted quick wins, he could easily load up wallets and pump random tokens. He could easily pump $KLED and make it what Useless is for BONK - the greatest believe ad. And that's what Avi was pushing him to do.
But to be completely honest, I'm glad he chose not to, for a handful of reasons. Sure it hurts a little short term, but Ben's playing the long game and I fully respect that.
It's not about loyalty - it's about what actually works for getting things built.
For utility projects like $WOM, I think we're still in the best spot. The wise move isn't always the popular move 🤷♂️
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